First Thoughts: Where's the buzz?

Where's the buzz surrounding the possible 2012 Republicans?... Politico says Hillaryland has its eyes on 2016, not 2012… Obama speaks at rally for O'Malley at 3:15 pm ET… While we all focus on the DE and AK Senate races, don't forget about CO, IL, PA, WV, and WI… GOP outside money groups have an 8-to-1 spending advantage… "Hicky, blue-collar look"?... About last night's Crist-Meek-Rubio debate… Profiling VA-2… And Blumenthal and McMahon square off in another debate.


*** Where's the buzz? President Obama today hits another rally (for Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley), after recently drawing 26,000 in Wisconsin. But looking ahead to 2012, we've heard some Republicans ask: If the GOP's '12 nominee was out there, wouldn't that person already have a considerable following? After all, conservatives and Republicans right now are displaying unprecedented enthusiasm, energy, and engagement about the coming midterm elections. That's largely why Republicans are poised to make big gains next month. But given this GOP excitement, it's striking that -- outside of Sarah Palin (and she could be more exciting to the media than to the base) -- none of it has rubbed off the potential '12 Republicans.

*** Comparing '06 with now: In 2006, due to his rock-star status campaigning for other Democrats, political observers could already sense that Obama would be a BIG deal if he ran for president. Ditto Hillary Clinton, whose march to Senate re-election was attracting plenty of buzz. Right now, the only Republican outside of Palin who's even approaching the same buzz that Obama and Clinton received in '06 is someone who has said he won't run: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. There are A LOT of 2012 GOPers traveling the country (Romney, Pawlenty, Huckabee, Santorum, etc), and none is even close to getting real buzz in the base of the party right now.

*** Speaking of buzz about 2012 (and also 2016): Thanks to Drudge and cable TV's need to feed the beast, we're not sure the Hillary-Biden "Trading Places" story is really going to go away, despite strong denials by the White House and Clinton. Indeed, Politico yesterday noted that Hillaryland's true target isn't VP in 2012 but rather president in 2016. "Not happening," one of her 2008 campaign's topmost figures said about Clinton becoming VP in '12. "Stay tuned for 2016." More: "Many in Clinton's broader circle assume that she is positioning herself with an eye toward that 2016 bid – not that they claim to have first-hand knowledge of it. 'Once you run for president you always want to be president," James Carville … told POLITICO when he was asked about Hillary Clinton's prospects. "My assumption is that once you've run you're going to run again." Of course, the whole story was written on the premise of making an assumption about her ambition. Those closest to Hillary acknowledge folks AROUND Clinton are more interested in seeing her run again than the prospective candidate herself. In fact, she's actually starting to get into a groove in her current job and starting to enjoy more this year than she did last year.

*** How quickly we forget 1994: The Politico article also made this point: "The renewed buzz around Clinton's prospects, though, has been driven by the political weaknesses of Obama and Biden. Fanned by a media eager for conflict and fascinated by all things Clinton, the spark for the notion of Clinton's return to politics comes from her original argument against Obama. Clinton made the case in the Democratic primaries that Obama would be unable to win among working-class white Democratic voters. The Democrats head into the midterms profoundly weak among some of those same white voters - though Obama's biggest problem remains with Republicans, and pollsters argue that their real problem is a lackluster Democratic base." Yet here's our question: If Bill Clinton couldn't avoid what happened in '94, then do we think Hillary as president would be any stronger than Obama is right now, especially with unemployment at 10%? Classic grass-is-always-greener-on-the-other-side analysis.

*** Obama's day: As mentioned above, President Obama delivers remarks at 3:15 pm ET at a rally for Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley at Bowie State University, a historically black college. Then, in the early evening, he flies to Chicago to speak at a fundraiser for Alexi Giannoulias at 7:00 pm ET.

*** Don't you … forget about me: While the political and news world fixates on the Senate contests in Delaware (because of Christine O'Donnell) and Alaska (because of Todd Palin's nasty-gram email to Joe Miller), we want to remind folks that there are MUCH more competitive and consequential Senate races out there. Some examples: Colorado, Illinois, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. In fact, these are, perhaps, the five CLOSEST Senate races in the country, and they rank near the bottom in coverage. Hmmm

*** GOP outside group's 8-to-1 spending advantage: On Tuesday, we wrote about how GOP-leaning outside groups were blowing away Dem outside groups in TV ad spending. Here are some fresh numbers a source sent us: From August until now, GOP groups have spent nearly $41 million in key Senate seats, including $8.8 million by American Crossroads and $14 million by Crossroads GPS. By comparison, Dem groups have spent just $5.5 million in these states. That's an 8-to-1 advantage for the GOP. Wow…

*** The 'hicky' blue-collar look? Remember that recent tough TV ad the National Republican Senatorial Committee is running against Joe Manchin in West Virginia? The ad features three men -- wearing flannel and baseball caps -- having a conversation about how "Obama's messin' things up" and how Manchin "does whatever Obama wants." Well, it turns out those weren't West Virginians. Rather, they were actors shooting the ad from Philadelphia, and they weren't just actors, Politico reports. "'We are going for a "Hicky" Blue Collar look,' read the casting call for the ad, being aired by the National Republican Senatorial Committee. 'These characters are from West Virginia so think coal miner/trucker looks.'" All of a sudden, Manchin now has three things to hit GOP opponent John Raese with: 1) that Raese's wife is a resident of another state; 2) Raese's position on the minimum wage; and 3) this casting call that doesn't necessarily portray West Virginia in a positive light.

*** About last night: Here's the Miami Herald's take on last night's Crist-Meek-Rubio debate in Florida: "Marco Rubio got the front-runner treatment in a combative U.S. Senate debate Wednesday night, with both his rivals attacking him as a right-wing extremist out of step with Florida voters." Here's the St. Pete Times: "The surprise of the night was Meek, the Democrat trailing in the polls, money and enthusiasm. Meek was strong throughout the hour, landing some of the best lines." Here's ABC: "[I]n the end, neither Gov. Charlie Crist (I) nor Rep. Kendrick Meek (D) was able to knock frontrunner Marco Rubio (R) off his game." And here is the take from NBC's Adam Verdugo, who was there: It was clear that both Crist and Meek had Rubio in their sights. Rubio is the clear frontrunner in the polls and just before the debate, Rubio's campaign announced a record haul of $5 million in the last quarter, the largest from a Senate candidate this quarter.

*** 75 House races to watch: VA-2: The Democratic nominee is first-term incumbent Glenn Nye, and his GOP opponent is businessman Scott Rigell. In 2008, Obama won 51% in this district -- representing Virginia Beach -- while Bush won 58% in '04. As of June 30, Nye had nearly $1.3 million in the bank, versus Rigell's $227,000. Nye voted against the stimulus, cap-and-trade, and health care. Cook rates the contest as Toss Up, while Rothenberg has it Lean Republican.

*** More midterm news: In Colorado, Campaign Money Watch, a nonpartisan campaign finance reform watchdog group, is up with a big ad buy against Ken Buck… In Connecticut, Dick Blumenthal and Linda McMahon square off in another debate today.

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The GOP is just the party of "No" !!

It's business first,...citizens last.

They simply want to not contribute to a common good. They want seperate elitist empires.

The GOP wants to convince us that we as a nation are better off abandoning our neighbors and worshipping the dollar,.......no community, no civility, no dignity,...

If you haven't got the cash up front, I don't care what happens to you.

The GOP wants just the opposite of unions. They'd love to abolish all protections so that they could treat the desperate, fearful slaves how ever they want for less pay,...and for ever increasing hours. They'd abolish child labor laws if they could.

Just you wait till the GOP gets back in power; sky rocketing healthcare and insurance prices, even more jobs shipped overseas, higher interest rates.

The GOP wants you afraid, and you are,...so you are going to do whatever they say despite the fact it will result in bigger problems.

  • 4 votes
Reply#151 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT

That's NO, NO and HELL NO! Get it right! And I'm sure as hell glad they are. Someone has got to STOP this insane Obama!!!

  • 2 votes
#151.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT

Here's to the GOP and a future of endless labor and indebtedness for anyone who is not rich.

You are either blind or stubborn.

  • 3 votes
#151.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:45 PM EDT

Dem's... Always babbling and making stuff up. That will be the day that YOU can speak for ME... seriously foolish!!

  • 1 vote
#151.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT

You're just Simple,...taking your lines from Rush Limbaugh.

  • 1 vote
#151.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT

Your rambling hate speech.. is just that!

A spade is a spade

And I am pretty sure it is the party of "Hell No"

  • 1 vote
#151.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:09 PM EDT

Quit drinking the MSNBC Kool-aid and wake up. Just because the GOP is the party of NO to higher spending and NO to social subsidies and NO to Big Government and NO to Wall St. Bailouts; does not mean they're the party of NO, you've just bought the propaganda. The GOP is the party of YES; Yes to States rights, YES to smaller goverment, YES to Lower spending, YES to lower taxes, YES to less restrictions so that companies can compete, YES to a strong military, YES to the rights of the unborn (but human life), and YES to a lower deficit. I know that under Bush the congress spent a lot his last 2 years, but that was a Democratics controlled House. Yes there are corrupt politicians on the GOP side, the Tea Party is weeding them out, but what you can't say is they are the party of NO. Just because they're against Marxism and for Capitalism doesn't make them a party of no.

  • 3 votes
#151.6 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:16 PM EDT

"It's business first,...citizens last."

If businesses aren't given priority when it comes to economic decisions the citizens won't have jobs, therefore your comment is obtuse on it's face. It sounds like your are all for the government taking care of the people instead helping businesses hiring people.

  • 2 votes
#151.7 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:21 PM EDT

You are all gullible fools to think that big business will ever do what's right for anything but the bottom line.

Rush Limbaugh is that big Kool Aid pitcher in the commercials, and you are the kids happily parading behind him.

The guiding hand of government has always been part of our two party system,...until now. You are being duped into believing that these are all or nothing decisions.

The conservative pundits CONSTANTLY are creating straw man arguements (asserting and defending against positions which the opposing side doesn't even have),....and you buy it.

Go ahead and let healthcare companies and insurance companies and Wall Street run our lives,.....and have grandma work until she dies,....but I KNOW you are wrong. You are just such over zealous puffed up, chest thumping pseudo-patriots,...there is no talking to you.

The answer is near the middle. NO,...it is not all tax and spend,...but it's not all screw your neighbor and collect the rewards. The current conservative mindset is simply intransagent without one ounce of understanding for anything than the rhetoric that they have been endlessly fed since inauguration day.

You are so busy goose stepping,...you don't even see it.

The pendulum is simply swinging a little to the left. It's an adjustment. The republicans will have their day again, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

The guiding hand of government is NEEDED to control the greed factor. I am absolutely sure.

  • 1 vote
#151.8 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:34 PM EDT

The people want jobs right now and they "trust" business wayyyyyy more than the government to create those jobs. The Dem's failed the people during a great national emergency... the people are angry as we are now 2 years in ... no going back... it's over and the grade is... "F"

  • 2 votes
#151.9 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:46 PM EDT

Remember Bush's "F" ? I sure do.

I remember that just about everyone DESPERATELY wanted him out of office. He was the most unpresidential,....NON-fiscally conservative,....unconcerned with domestic policy,....elitist ever. He was only concerned about the wealthy and making war.

I can hardly freakin' wait. Things are gonna be so much better.

The GOP better make change that people can feel.

  • 1 vote
#151.10 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:50 PM EDT

Brad Martin

The guiding hand of government is NEEDED to control the greed factor. I am absolutely sure.

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The government needs a guiding kick in the ass to get them out of our life, Libbie-boy.

  • 1 vote
#151.11 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:55 PM EDT

Ohh good job.. beat a guy that couldnt even run again cuz... he already won twice!! And what was the Dem main weapon... Ohh ya... "Truthers"... running around saying how our government was behind 911… Ya sure... our president attacked us… grrrr!

Either way that doesnt vindicate Obama or the Dem's today

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#151.12 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:58 PM EDT

No, but it's PERFECT example of GOP virtue.

You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." --as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War

"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense." --Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006 (Read more; listen to audio clip; watch video clip)

He was "uniquely" American, wasn't he.

  • 2 votes
#151.13 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT

Prepare to serve the wealthy,...exclusively.

  • 2 votes
#151.14 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:05 PM EDT

We will be voting straight ticket NO in 26 days.

  • 1 vote
#151.15 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:13 PM EDT

Video is removed.. Either way... he WAS the decider and could have Rumsfeld. I really dont get your point on this one... the press was supposed to decide??

  • 1 vote
#151.16 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:15 PM EDT

You can't believe any of the stuff you spill onto the printed page.

    #151.17 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:19 PM EDT

    Once elected,...the GOP will serve business and the wealthy - as usual.

    There will be nothing "for the people" about it.

    That is my point.

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    #151.18 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:32 PM EDT

    If the Dems stay in power there will be no jobs for the people. This continued reliance on government to extend unemployment benefits, which anyone with any SELF RESPECT enjoys receiving, is not gratifing to say the least. I am sure your are one of those people who would rather a have a paying job instead of getting unemployment insurance checks....right?

      #151.19 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 5:32 PM EDT

      Osamao, you and your Al-Quada buddies are despicable. We will eventually find you. You can't hide in a cave forever.

      Tell us the real reason you want to attack America. You Marxist Muslim!

        #151.20 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:29 PM EDT
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        I am interested in why so many democrats seem to be campaigning as conservatives and seem to be running from the Obama administration?
        There is definitely a buzz about the Dems right now. And it's not pretty. Obama blew his presidency because he sacrificed all of this country's goodwill on the altar of his far left ideology

        • 4 votes
        Reply#152 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT

        Republicans, big money? Are you people serious? Take your blinders off for a minute. Obama received $800 million in contributions. Do you ever wonder where that money came from. Hint George Soros. 7 of the 10 richest congressmen are democrats. Someday I hope you all realize that the deomcratic party is only there for power and control. They throw you a few scraps to buy your vote. Then turn around and take your paycheck, that is if you have a job.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#153 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT

        Point well made.

        • 2 votes
        #153.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:21 PM EDT
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        The Republican Party doesn’t need buzz to win back the White House in 2012. The American people are so disgusted with the Obama administrations (Regimes) failed policies and soaring debt that the Republicans could run a trained seal against Obama in 2012. If you look at the Generic Polls Obama loses to the un-named Republican Candidate by a fairly wide margin.

        The truth hurts. Obama is an empty suit full of empty promises. Hopefully win the Republicans regain control of Congress in January the will not make the same mistakes as last time and will stick to their core values, or they’ll get tossed out in 2012. The American people are fed up with business as usual. To be quite honest, party affiliation means very little unless you happen to be affiliated with Obama.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#154 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:44 PM EDT

         DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN

        Republicans favor big business and religious tyranny.

        Democrats favor big government and social tyranny.

        Neither one favors unbiased Constitutional equality and liberty for all.

          Reply#155 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:46 PM EDT

          There is SOME truth to what you're saying, but you're putting things in box that won't fit. Republicans favor big business, because it benifits the middle and working class. Yes they are pro-Christian, but not religious tyranny. They don't want religion to rule the government, they just don't want the goverment to remove the evidence and influence of the Bible on our country and government. Our Constitution is the best document in the history of the world and it is so, because of the heavy influence of Christians and their Bible. The Bible does not promot and never has promoted the force of their religion on anyone. The only expeception was the Catholics and the Church of England, but that was because the power of the Monarchs. For you to say that Conservatives dont' favor unbiased Constitutional equality or liberty for all is just flat ignorant. Please reply with specific examples in the last 25 years. It was Reagan that brought down the Berlin Wall, not Carter.

          • 2 votes
          #155.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT

          What is your mind is wrong with big business? Without the risk some people take, selling a product for more than it costs to be made is the reason why people in this country have jobs. Or, at least they did until the Democrats took control of government, imposing their regulations on companies.

          What product or service does government provide that makes a profit and helps to grow the economy? A simple answer - nothing government does moves the economy forward, in fact, recent policies by this administration has created more debt, more government and failed programs. HealthCare is one example. Thirty companies received an exemption with their health care coverage for one year (a voting year). next year you will be down the road to single payer. End of a good health care system that could have been increased to the uninsured at a lower cost to the country.

          • 2 votes
          #155.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:47 PM EDT
          Reply

          There are a some great Indpendent, Tea Party, and Republican canidates out there......But this station/website is so far up Obama/Democrats rear ends that they can't see anything!

          I for one like Paul Ryan (R) Wisconson....

          • 4 votes
          Reply#156 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:53 PM EDT

          Nicole, Great call on Paul Ryan from Wisconsin. The moment I heard him speak to the President about Healthcare when they had that by-partisan meeting I was sold. I like Huckabee and Palin, but I would vote for Him first.

          • 2 votes
          #156.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT
          Reply

          I am glad that they don't even try to hide the fact that they are writing opinion rather than news. Nothing wrong with opinion as long as people understand it for what it is.

          Oops...just went back to the first page and saw that it IS political NEWS. Hmmmm....

          • 1 vote
          Reply#157 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:58 PM EDT

          It appears that everything Ron Paul predicted while campaigning for the 2008 race has turned out to be fact. He will be the best candidate in 2012. If he would have won in 2008 we would be well on our way to prosperity and freedom would have been restored.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#158 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:01 PM EDT

          Well, I guess we better contact China, Russia, and India and find out who they are running for president.

            Reply#159 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT

            The Dem politicians are running for the hills hiding and denying any involvement in their failed left wing policy's... Even registered Dem's are voting the Dem's out of office (Their words not mine)... They have turned on their leader... preferring to stay as far away from him as possible. To be seen publicly with Obama is viewed as political suicide!.. Some are even running tv ad's vowing to stand up and fight AGAINST their own party!... I really think that says it all

            And somehow you think people should sign up and start rallying while they hide? … enough said

            • 1 vote
            Reply#160 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT

            This guy is conservative blog propagandist.

            There are more democrats than they would lead you to believe. The conservatives are just shouting so loud all of the time that they look bigger than they are.

            The GOP are just obstructionists. Stick to you beliefs and vote D this November !

            • 2 votes
            #160.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT

            Ohh Lordy…I am so tired of the Dem "Spin" the only reason you won in 08' was both the anti-war vote (Toooo easy 6 years in) and the nostalgia of the first black pres. Those people didn’t vote for your ideals. Even with those two HUGE bumps it was only like what 52-48 popular? Hence… the immediate "Regret Vote" the very first year and growing ever since.

            Sorry… there are really "Less" democrats than you have deluded yourselves into believing and the polls are showing it now.

            • 1 vote
            #160.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT

            "Stick to you beliefs and vote D this November !"

            Especially if you enjoy not having a job and sitting at home.

            • 2 votes
            #160.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT

            He means D for Dumb

            • 1 vote
            #160.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT
            Reply

            In regards to the Florida debate, I never (and either should you) ever believe what a writer from a newspaper has to say about anything. What blows my mind is all the Liberals crying about Fox News leaning to the right, when the REST of the media leans left, especially MSNBC. We need balance. I watch all of the news and I know when I'm hearing opinion and fact and when there is a hidden agenda from the correspondant. I don't even live in Florida, but Rubio will win by 10pts easy. You can make fun of the Tea Party all you want Olberman and Maddow, but if you're going to do so then just admit you wouldv'e disagreed with our founders also. "We the People..." NOT "We the Government...." is whats on our founding document.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#161 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT

            Another repubnican/Tea party hypocrisy. Is this the kind of leaders people want in this country. Lets vote them in. Let the corupted politician run and destroy this country.

            http://scoop.todayshow.com/_news/2010/10/07/5250039-report-lou-dobbs-relied-on-undocumented-labor?GT1=43001

            • 1 vote
            Reply#162 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT

            You know whats funny I said the same thing about Obama. I went as far as to say I hope Franken gets elected so they have 60 in the Senate, so there will be no excuse when they ----- things ups. Guess what it happened. They have no excuse, they had all the power and look what happened. Fact: they put healthcare in front of jobs. Fact: they bailed out GM and Wall St. Fact unemployment went up from 6% to nearly 10% under His watch. I hope you get your wish. Let the Tea Party candidates take over and see what happens. I can tell you what will happen. Spending and Taxes will go down, restrictions will be removed so that jobs will return from overseas. The economy will pick up, unemployment will go down and then the one thing I can promise will happen: Liberal Democrats will give Obama all of the credit.

              #162.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:09 PM EDT

              Troy I agree, jobs will come back under the tea party once we remove restictions. You can then compete with China and India directly. Good to see a man who doesn't mind working for 50 cents an hour.

                #162.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 5:42 PM EDT
                Reply

                Hey, Troy... Faux News HAS blown your mind. "The most powerful name in news" is not news. It's noise! Rubio is just a one hit wonder. Check out your witchcraft girlfriend in Delaware. Another Palin wanna-be. Pathetic, just like Palin!

                Troy-949371

                What blows my mind is all the Liberals crying about Fox News leaning to the right, when the REST of the media leans left, especially MSNBC.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#163 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:28 PM EDT

                Agreed. Media has been so far to the left for so many decades I cannot believe Liberals are so upset about little old foxnews finally offer the other side. Of liberals are notorious for being "open" minded as long as you agree with them 100%. Like all those "open" minded liberal professors. HA! I would rather have the markets/me determine my destiny then the polical whores in DC.

                • 1 vote
                #163.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:59 PM EDT

                C_D_J55

                You sound a little bitter. Sticks and stones C D.

                If Palin is so irrelevant why does she make you libs so angry? She must be hitting a nerve.

                Do you want to know what’s so pathetic? That so many mindless idiots (like you) put a Socialist in the White House. Yes we can… change, change, change… duhhhhh.

                Luckily the country has woken from its coma-like slumber and this nightmare is almost over.

                C D aren’t you late for a protest somewhere?

                • 1 vote
                #163.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT

                I like a candidate who is PC incorrect. I like the guy in NY too! A conservative can be like a Palin and become vilified by the Dems and their party owned media, but the conservative will be critized even by the pary elite.

                It is interesting though, how Palin makes the Entitlement Party afraid. Why else are they throwing the slop at her and other like her?

                I guess the answer is: When you have nothing to sell, create opposition.

                • 1 vote
                #163.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:21 PM EDT

                CD J55,

                If I were a Liberal I would say the same thing, make accusations without facts. I understand why you guys hate guys like Hannity, because he mocks you. Whether its 'News' or not doesn't matter or even whether its objective. Whats important is whether it is TRUE. What Hannity, O'Reilley, Beck and others say about Harry Reid is true. What they say about Obama is true. What they say about Boxer is true. I understand, I used to be a moderate myself, but when I studied history of governments and policies I realized that eventhough the idea of rich getting richer and capitalism being driven by greed I realized that it benefits the lower/middle class more than any other, social programs never work.

                  #163.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT

                  but is has not benefiting the lower/middle class in years. So, I guess the rich are getting stingy, these past several years....

                  • 1 vote
                  #163.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:33 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  You are all gullible fools to think that big business will ever do what's right for anything but the bottom line.

                  Rush Limbaugh is that big Kool Aid pitcher in the commercials, and you are the kids happily parading behind him.

                  The guiding hand of government has always been part of our two party system,...until now. You are being duped into believing that these are all or nothing decisions.

                  The conservative pundits CONSTANTLY are creating straw man arguements (asserting and defending against positions which the opposing side doesn't even have),....and you buy it.

                  Go ahead and let healthcare companies and insurance companies and Wall Street run our lives,.....and have grandma work until she dies,....but I KNOW you are wrong. You are just such over zealous puffed up, chest thumping pseudo-patriots,...there is no talking to you.

                  The answer is near the middle. NO,...it is not all tax and spend,...but it's not all screw your neighbor and collect the rewards. The current conservative mindset is simply intransagent without one ounce of understanding for anything than the rhetoric that they have been endlessly fed since inauguration day.

                  You are so busy goose stepping,...you don't even see it.

                  The pendulum is simply swinging a little to the left. It's an adjustment. The republicans will have their day again, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

                  The guiding hand of government is NEEDED to control the greed factor. I am absolutely sure.

                    Reply#164 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:43 PM EDT

                    The people want jobs and they "trust" business wayyyyyy more than the government to create those jobs. The Dem's failed the people during a great national emergency... the people are angry as we are now 2 years in ... no going back... it's over and the grade is... "F"

                      #164.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT

                      The guiding hand that is needed is RISK. Risk governs greed. When the government uses our money to bail-out the corporations there is no longer any risk and GREED will become worse. The governments job should be to make sure the playing field is level and nothing more. Free markets will derermine the rest. Unfortunately the corrupt power hungry politicians want to run our lives. That is when we really have problems becasue we do not have choice in that. They just take everything!!! Stop the nonsense and take away power from the abusive DC crowd.

                      • 1 vote
                      #164.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:53 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      I doubt Republicans are worried about 2012 "buzz". All Obama had to do in 2008 is not be Bush. In 2012 just NOT being Obama will be enough. What a joke this guy had been.

                        Reply#165 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

                        Many Dem's are wishing that maybe Hillary can save them in 2012... As soon as they figure out how to apologize for totally stabbing her in the back last election!!

                        Hahaha... the show just gets better and better!!

                          #165.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:51 PM EDT

                          As the Dems who voted for the Obama initiatives now look back on their political careers, they are saying: Holy $^&!, i backed the wrong guy. The incumbents aren't runing on their records, for if they did, they are out. But the american public isn't that dumb, they remember. After the mid-terms, the American public will see just what the Democratic Congress will vote for in the lame-duck session.

                          With a majority of Congress possible, Obama will demonize the Republicans more for stopping his liberal programs that caused some of this current mess we are in.

                          In 2012, you will see the Hillary's and other Dems attempt to run for the Obama seat, and probably Hillary will capture the Dem nomination.

                          I can see the sign when Obama is outed:

                          "dumbell for sale. View at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Talk to Michelle.

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                          #165.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:13 PM EDT
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                          Are there any Democrat incumbants running on their record ? (Crickets)

                          Most are not even mentioning the fact that they are Democrats in their campaign ads...wonder why not ?

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                          Reply#166 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT

                          Lots of them, and unlike conservatives they have a record they can run on, unlike the party of no.

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                          #166.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:07 PM EDT

                          Don't you mean they have a record they run away from? The Dems are not saying much about ObamaCare, stimulus or anything else they have done in the last four years. If I didn't know any better, I can sware they are conservatives in those ads.

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                          #166.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:16 PM EDT

                          If a Dem runs on the previous voting issues, that candidate will have issues. I believe the american population isn't as stupid as the Dems want us to believe.

                            #166.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 6:18 PM EDT
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                            Yeah!....Let's blame Bush!!!......it's been a whole day now that somebody did not blame the man who left office 20 months ago for something!.......In 2012?....What about Donald Trump?.....he may not be a former "community activist" that spent a few years as a Senator before becoming the jet setting leader of the entire Free World......but I bet he knows more about what happens when you keep spending money you don't have! Apparently our government hasn't learned that simply truth yet. The "Donald" certainly could teach them.

                              Reply#167 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT

                              alwaysfaithfull

                              What about Donald Trump?.....he may not be a former "community activist" that spent a few years as a Senator before becoming the jet setting leader of the entire Free World......but I bet he knows more about what happens when you keep spending money you don't have! Apparently our government hasn't learned that simply truth yet. The "Donald" certainly could teach them.

                              Oh yeah, that's right. Isn't that the reason he goes bankrupt often. Please, he is not qualified.

                                #167.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT
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                                Majority of low/middle income working class voters do not watch television quite often. These people are so preoccupied with work that they have no time to sit down and watch Television so some of them do not even know that there is an election coming in Nov 2nd.

                                But you know what? This category of voters are always on the road either going to or coming from work and at shopping places trying to buy necessities. If both the parties (Democrats and Republicans) would have people volunteering to stand with big posters at major road intersections or at shopping areas to remind people that there is a major election on November 4th, it will effectively pass the message across than spending millions of dollars on TV which non of this group of people even watch. Students also need to be reminded in this way because most students are now occupied with exams and assignments that they rarely watch TV but they can be reminded by these road side posters. ELECTIONS MATTER.


                                  Reply#168 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT

                                  The Democrats will win this November.

                                  See you at the polls ,....losers !!!

                                    Reply#169 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:36 PM EDT

                                    Can a liberal out there answer this question for me: why do you feel I need to share my wealth with someone who hasn't worked as hard as I have?

                                    fiesty and the retired navy, feel free to help me out here.

                                      Reply#170 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT

                                      Come on, Rush and Shawn both insist that they work as hard as you do and deserve some huge tax breaks. How do you expect a guy to make three hundred million if we don't redistribute some of that wealth up to the top?

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                                      #170.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT
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                                        Reply#171 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT

                                        Majority of low/middle income working class voters do not watch television quite often. These people are so preoccupied with work that they have no time to sit down and watch Television so some of them do not even know that there is an election coming in Nov 2nd.

                                        But you know what? This category of voters are always on the road either going to or coming from work and at shopping places trying to buy necessities. If both the parties (Democrats and Republicans) would have people volunteering to stand with big posters at major road intersections or at shopping areas to remind people that there is a major election on November 2nd, it will effectively pass the message across than spending millions of dollars on TV which non of this group of people even watch. Students also need to be reminded in this way because most students are now occupied with exams and assignments that they rarely watch TV but they can be reminded by these road side posters. ELECTIONS MATTER.

                                          Reply#172 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:02 PM EDT

                                          To right-wing posters – Let’s get this straight. You are the hypocrites with your feigned outrage about so-called lack of transparency in the Obama administration, yet seem unconcerned about where campaign money is coming from. Also, I tire of you straw man, red herring, and Godwin’s Law (substitute socialist for Nazi) fallacious augmentation. Instead of arguing “if you think Dubya was bad, Clinton was worse” crap, why don’t you tell us why you aren’t concerned about corporatism (fascism) and foreign influence in our no-longer fair elections in our no-longer democratic system?

                                          Tell us please, why you aren’t concerned about the Supreme Court ruling against 90 years precedence that protected “one person, one vote”? Tell us please why you aren’t contacting your Republican representatives demanding to know why they filibustered, yet again, legislation that would have provided some damage control?

                                          OMG, and would you please stop with your lies about illegal immigration, unions, etc. Obama has done more to crack down on illegal entry than Bush ever did, and if you’re wondering why Americans no longer enjoy good wages and benefits, it’s probably because unions are now only 22% of what once existed. Regions that have a living wage rather than the minimum wage have better economies, because people actually have money to spend on the products and services offered by companies in the area. If you’re going to make a point, at least make it factual.

                                          Why do conservatives vote against their own best interests in favor of corporations, even foreign ones (BP) who ship jobs overseas? Please explain this. Because it seems like you hate our country and want to destroy our future. You're so uninformed you don't even know why you're angry. Name calling against Obama or progressive posters without substance persuades no one.

                                            Reply#173 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT

                                            dems controlled the congress the past 3.5 years? so hard to believe since it seems the gops have all the power to say "NO" to everything and blocking most every bill using filibuster as their powerful weapon. they only say "YES" to their big money supporters. but if you say "Lets screw the middle class!" they will definitely give you an enthuiastic "YES"!

                                              Reply#174 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT

                                              It never ceases to amaze me when Republicans start talking about "Welfare"

                                              Totally against it, The entire system should be abolished, Welfare scum sucking the working class dry, etc But when you actually check facts Republican controlled States basically operate off of Federal Aid provided by Democrats, Texas itself takes in more in Federal Aid than every single welfare recipient in the USA combined and has for 20 years.

                                              Sure, Lower taxes, etc sound good, But why should someone in Delaware, Maine, or Illinois be paying to support Texas's Republican corporate tax breaks when it is killing the States economy??

                                                Reply#175 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:16 PM EDT
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